Friday, January 27, 2012

Subaru Update

If you have read the recent posting I did about the situation regarding Anchor Subaru and my sister's car, I wanted to post this update.

Thank you to everyone for commenting and please keep it going because there is no end in sight, yet. The car is being held hostage and below you can read the official statement from Anchor Subaru in regards to the situation:


Hello this is Chris Benoit from Anchor Subaru I would like to respond by first stating we take any and all customer issues very seriously and proactively take steps to resolve those issues. We have been able to consistently grow our business over the past 17 years by among other things treating customers fairly and operating with integrity. Further, although we strive for perfection we sometimes make mistakes and when this happens we do the right thing and take responsibility for the mistake. We are a relatively small family owned business and we truly recognize that our customers are the reason we exist. In this context I would like to address some of the points made by the op jmaziarz.

The vehicle was serviced on Saturday 1/14/12 we performed 2 recalls and an oil change. The vehicle was towed in 4 days later on Wednesday 1/18/12 having traveled 132 miles since the Saturday service. We visually inspected the vehicle and found an internal engine noise, the drain plug and oil filter were tight and no oil was leaking from either place and the oil level was full. If we had found that either the drain plug or the filter was loose resulting in leaking oil causing the failure, I would have at minimum apologized to the Wilsons and paid for the repair. However, this was not the case. To support the point that we did put oil in the vehicle it would have been unlikely to have made it 2-3 miles before failure, whereas this vehicle drove 132 miles over 4 days before the failure.

In discussing the findings with Mr. Wilson the Service Advisor said that there was an internal engine failure causing the noise, the drain plug and filter were tight and that the oil level was full, and thus the failure was not caused an improperly performed the oil change but rather an internal failure.

The advisor then offered the possibility of Anchor obtaining goodwill assistance from Subaru of America to help defray some of the costs (the vehicle is out of warranty by 5,000 miles). The only requirement is that we would need oil change records as supporting documents. Mr. Wilson provided the records and they were presented to Subaru of America. The next step in the process it to obtain customer approval to disassemble the engine to determine the point of failure and report the findings to Mr. Wilson and Subaru of America. They will then determine the level of assistance if any that will be provided.

Throughout the process we have been in contact with Mr. Wilson and Subaru of America. We last called and spoke with Mr. Wilson on Monday 1/23/12 to get approval for the disassembly. We were told that he would call us back and we have not yet heard from him. We are looking forward to getting his approval and moving forward.

I would ask that Mr. Wilson contact me directly at (401) 767-5000.

Thank you,

Chris Benoit
Vice President
Anchor Auto Group
Anchor Subaru
Anchor Nissan
And here is my reply:

I would like to thank Mr. Benoit for responding. However, the facts remain that on two occasions, during two separate phone conversations, once to J. Wilson and once to Mr. Moore (J. Wilson's father) the reason for the engine fail was said to be "no lubrication in the engine" and it was only after proper paperwork was provided proving constant maintenance to the car and it was discovered that the latest oil change was in fact done by your service department, the story changed to an internal engine failure. Here I would like to point out that your dealership itself sold this car to the Wilson family 2 years ago. You stated that you are awaiting to hear from Mr. Wilson on whether or not to dismantle the engine. The facts are that it is entirely possible that if you and your dealership decide to not be responsible for the "engine fail" once the engine has been completely dismantled, Mr. Wilson will be charged the labor fee and then the rebuild cost to his engine. One can understand why there is a delay in his decision since perhaps he now needs to reach out and consult a lawyer. The Wilson family owns only this one car and has been without transportation according to you, since 1/18/12. Today is 01/27/12...and being that you take "any and all customer issues very seriously and proactively take steps to resolve those issues", why haven't you offered them a loaner car during this time? Let me ask you also, since there is a huge amount of public outcry about your treatment of this situation and we have heard from a number of unhappy customers coming from dealings with your dealership, how can the Wilson family feel certain that their car is being handled properly or that they will get an honest outcome? You sound very convincing in your response Mr. Benoit, but the facts show a lack of customer care and a change in your dealership's story. What started out as "lack of lubrication" and engine seizure has turned into a faulty Subaru engine that is suddenly the fault of the customer (when in fact the car was recently purchased from you and has been perfectly maintained). Even though you tried very hard to sound caring and concerned, I am left with doubts. And in the time that has passed, this is the very first time the Wilson family has ever heard from you, here on this very high traffic blog where many people have commented on the unfairness of this situation. In fact, I myself sent the link to your dealership's attention yesterday when I visited your contact page. I also visited the contact page of Subaru of America, explaining that this situation was creating a negative buzz about Anchor Subaru and, by extension, Subaru of America. How sad that it ever had to come to this but the reason I wrote this blog was because of the lack of care, concern and fairness that was shown to the Wilson family. And in writing this, I have heard many more sadly similar stories. Unfortunately, it would seem that the general opinion and advice to the Wilson family is that if they want justice, they need to seek legal advice. How sad that it comes to that. You may be a "family owned business" Mr. Benoit but you haven't treated the Wilson's like family and that casts a shadow on the name of Subaru as well.

Just as an added bonus, I asked about the recalls that brought my sister's Subaru Forester in to Anchor Subaru in the first place. One was a recall that had to do with the engine control module reprogramming. So beyond the oil change itself, they were the last people to touch the engine and then three days later the car died. And Mr. Benoit said that the car was driven for four days before it died when in fact, it was three. The car died at night on the third day and was towed back to the dealership late that same night.

There is still no help being offered from Anchor Subaru, other then the comment by the Vice President Mr. Benoit, as seen above.

I ask again that everyone please pass this blog along and let everyone you know hear about this situation. You can never underestimate the power of the written word or the people behind it.

Thank you again.

And please scroll down the comments section  of Subaru, How Could You? to read Mr. W. Moore's addition to the story. It's very interesting as well.

And stay tuned for further updates as then occur.



12 comments:

  1. I have to agree here with Sam, who's comment is posted on the previous blog entry. The fact that Anchor "gave them a deal" by allowing them to use a loaner for 5 days and then they have to pay after the five days sounds ridiculous to me. Also the "we charge $125 to work on the car but we will cut it to $60 an hour" sounds like a shady deal as well. I think it would be good to remember that dealerships are out to make money, bottom line. And organized crime goes by the title "Family Business" too. The car failed after being serviced at Anchor Subaru. Anchor Subaru questioned the integrity of the private mechanic and suggested that IF the Wilson's had come to the dealership all along for service, this may not have happened. And now, the Wilson family has to trust this same dealership to find the problem and be honest and fair about it? Seriously?

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  2. Anchor Subaru will bring car into shop when next slot in shop is open. That should be Monday or Tuesday. It will take one or two days of dis-assembly to find the problem. Then all parties meet again to discuss the next step. I think Mr. Beniot graciously give the loner car at no charge up to that meeting. The Wilson family is taking this one step at a time. Should here something by Wed or Thurs.

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  3. If the engine had no oil in it at the time of the breakdown and Anchor changed the oil only three days previously and there is no sign of a hole in the oil pan or a massive leak anywhere else on the engine, Anchor Subaru is 100% at fault. Nothing should be coming out of the Wilson's pockets. If they are denying responsibility then a lawyer should be doing the talking for them. Shame on Anchor for not stepping up to the plate and admitting to a mistake like that. One that I'm sure they are covered by liability insurance for. It has now cost them so, so much more in a loss of future and repeat customers. On a side note, impressive that the little boxer engine lasted that long without oil in the sump. That's one tough engine. Lesson learned? Buy a Subaru but not from Anchor-Derek Tiller

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  4. I just wanted to respond to some of the posts on the other blog, several
    of you are concerned about us seeking legal action.
    Thank you all for your concern. We are hoping that we can come to a fair
    conclusion to this very sressfull situation with Mr Benoit and Subaru of America.
    If Terrence and I do not feel the terms are fair at the time we meet again, after
    the engine is taken down, we then will go forth we our lawyer. We are truly hoping
    not to have to do that, but if we are left with no choice, we will. Since Terrence
    is in the union, he gets legal aid when he needs it. So there is nothing to worry
    about on that end, just so you all know, we are ready in case we need to be. Thank
    you all again,I just want this to be over, as you can all imagine.We will keep you updated.

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    1. My only concern is that by allowing Anchor to continue to touch the car, they are able to control the situation and cause any changes they want to the situation. Why are we trusting them to do the right thing now? They can tamper with the car and engine to support anything they say and there will be no one to stop them. I feel an outside party should have done the engine tear down, in order to be fair. Even if a lawyer gets involved now, Anchor Subaru can create proof for any yarn they spin about what "really" happened with the engine, since all this time the engine has been in their shop. I think the water is so muddied now, I fear the truth may never come out, not as long as Anchor is still the one in control of the car. They may find out the truth but will they share it? Watch, this dealership will end up offering to take the car from the Wilson family, repair whatever truly went wrong and then resell it, all to their own profit, while getting the Wilson family to purchase another car from their lot. Profit Profit Profit for Anchor Subaru and they come out of this looking fair and magnanimous. This is whole situation makes my stomach sick.

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    2. I agree with you 100 percent, I'm sure everyone reading this does too, because we think of ourselves or our friends or our loved ones, in the same
      situation!!! Subaru has probably covered it up,come on, of course, we all know that..... but moving forward fix it, do the right thing. But it's
      good they have a lawyer ready....

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  5. I agree its shady..... what is Subaru of America doing? Are they still involved?

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  6. I don't think at this point Subaru of America is "involved". I think this is all Anchor at this point

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  7. Anchor touched the car last..... it's simple they are responsible.....

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  8. From W. Moore

    I heard from Terrence tonight. 01/31/12. Anchor Subaru found the problem . Something failed to cause valve stem and cylinder damage. They commented that it was not an oil lubrication problem, but some sort of failure. They also commented that the engine was very clean inside, no gunk or varnish, implying proper service by the Wilson's. Anchor Subaru will call Subaru America in the morning, as it was 6pm at tear down finish. Stay tuned........

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  9. So after weeks of waiting,it wasn't the Wison's fault..... not that we're surprised! I guess the economy is so bad that Anchor and Subaru need all the money they can get, they can't even give the Wilson's the loaner car for however long this is going to take?? when will this be over for this poor couple???

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  10. This whole situation is RIDIC!!!!!
    Give me a break,no car for 2 weeks now,and surprise, surprise it wasn't the lubrication!! Has there been an apology to the Wilson's!? A loaner for 5 days!!! How nice of Anchor..... It's like a trap car places use, buy you're car here, get the expensive extended warrenty,get it serviced here for $60-$125 an hour because everyone can afford that! If anything goes wrong we might help and you may then get a loaner for free! Yeah, and they wonder why we all hate car dealerships! This is why I buy a crap car every few years! Not worht it!!!!

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